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PostPosted: 2007-06-30 11:43:32
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I have an IBM/Lenovo X31 (XP Pro) and a LaCie external CD/DVD drive.

Recently, I bought a mobile/PDA (an O2 XDA). But when I attempted
to install Microsofts software to talk to the PDA, the install did
not work, and now the laptop will no longer use the CD drive.

Other USB devices work. When I attach the CD drive (with, for
instance, an audio CD in it), there is hard disk activity on the
laptop, and the CD spins up and the heads move about, but then
nothing at all. In particular, there is no USB Device Attached sound,
the CD drive does not appear on My Computer, and no USB Device
icon appears in the task bar.

Here is how I got to this state.

The laptop and CD Drive have worked well together for years, and I
have no reason to suspect a hardware problem.

Last night, I logged in to the laptop as administrator, attached the
CD drive and inserted the O2 CD. It was detected, and started running
a program. This said If you want to talk synchronise contacts
etc. with your PDA, you need to install Outlook. I said OK, and it
started copying things from the CD, and the progress bar reached
25% or so. Then the CD stopped. Pause. CD spins up, access light... stops.
Tiny flicker of hard disk access. Longer pause. CD spins up, access
light... stops. Then again with longer and longer pauses. Until it
simply stopped. Progress bar still at 25%, no disk activity. CD
stopped. No error message. Completely inert.

CTL-ALT-DEL to get the task manager. It lists two applications ---
the installer, and a (dormant) Roxio CD write (which is always on the
desktop, and wasnt being used). Both are unresponsive. I try
end task. Nothing happens --- in particular, the installer window
doesnt go away. Start menu no longer appears. CPU is idle,
everything has stopped.

So, from the task manager, I re-boot, and log in as Administrator. At
which point the computer resumes trying to install Outlook. But now,
there are messages about something timing out. I click retry a few
times, but I just get another message. So I try cancel... and the
installer goes dead.

So I decide to re-boot. While it is re-booting, I remove the CD
drive. Machine boots OK.... but when I re-attach the CD drive, it
doesnt mount it (see above).

After an extended burst of fiddling (plugging and unplugging the
USB, using another USB device and so forth), I did once get the
USB device attached noise for the drive --- albeit several MINUTES
after Id last detached it. And I then got it into a state where it
would play audio CDs. But the moment I put the O2 installer CD into
the system, it completely locked the machine (not even the mouse would
move) and I had to power it off.

Ive tried restoring the system to a week ago, with no change.

Ive tried booting into safe mode and removing all four (?) USB Root
hub devices, and all four (!) USB controller devices. But when I
booted back into normal mode, the system detected new hardware and
re-created all eight devices. The CD still doesnt appear.

What can have happened? How do I get XP back to using USB drives normally?

Robert.

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PostPosted: 2007-06-30 16:49:07
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In article , robert@deadspam.com says...
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> I have an IBM/Lenovo X31 (XP Pro) and a LaCie external CD/DVD drive.
>
> Recently, I bought a mobile/PDA (an O2 XDA). But when I attempted
> to install Microsofts software to talk to the PDA, the install did
> not work, and now the laptop will no longer use the CD drive.
>
> Other USB devices work. When I attach the CD drive (with, for
> instance, an audio CD in it), there is hard disk activity on the
> laptop, and the CD spins up and the heads move about, but then
> nothing at all. In particular, there is no USB Device Attached sound,
> the CD drive does not appear on My Computer, and no USB Device
> icon appears in the task bar.
>
> Here is how I got to this state.
>
> The laptop and CD Drive have worked well together for years, and I
> have no reason to suspect a hardware problem.
>

Well, until you can confirm that the hardware hasnt developed a fault
by plugging into a different computer, youre not going to know for
sure.

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PostPosted: 2007-06-30 18:55:16
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>>>>> Peter writes:



True... Need to be thorough

Ive just tried it in my wifes laptop. Plugged in, detected, and ran
first time. Twice.

So it looks like the drive is fine.

But plugging back in to my X31 still has the same behaviour: the
computer seems to probe it, the access light flashes, the heads move
if there is a disk in it and then... nothing.

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PostPosted: 2007-07-01 07:28:28
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Robert Inder wrote in message
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>>>>>> Peter writes:
> > Subject: Re: XP has stopped using USB CD Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007
> > 16:49:07 GMT
>
> >>
> >> The laptop and CD Drive have worked well together for years,
> >> and I have no reason to suspect a hardware problem.
> >>
>
> > Well, until you can confirm that the hardware hasnt developed a
> > fault by plugging into a different computer, youre not going to
> > know for sure.
>
> True... Need to be thorough
>
> Ive just tried it in my wifes laptop. Plugged in, detected, and ran
> first time. Twice.
>
> So it looks like the drive is fine.
>
> But plugging back in to my X31 still has the same behaviour: the
> computer seems to probe it, the access light flashes, the heads move
> if there is a disk in it and then... nothing.
>
> Robert.
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What happens if you plug a different usb device into yoiur computer???
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PostPosted: 2007-07-02 19:05:33
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>>>>> Fixer writes:



I dont have another CD, but other devices (e.g. bluetooth dongle)
work normally.

Ive now removed the USB controllers (again) and allowed Windows to
re-detect them. So now, the drive is working again.

But I still want to try to install ActiveSync, and I believe that the
moment I put the disk back in the drive, it is going to resume trying
to install Outlook and mess up again...

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PostPosted: 2007-07-03 02:02:39
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On Jul 2, 7:05 pm, Robert Inder wrote:
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> I dont have another CD, but other devices (e.g. bluetooth dongle)
> work normally.
>
> Ive now removed the USB controllers (again) and allowed Windows to
> re-detect them. So now, the drive is working again.
>
> But I still want to try to install ActiveSync, and I believe that the
> moment I put the disk back in the drive, it is going to resume trying
> to install Outlook and mess up again...
>
> Robert.
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You can certainly install ActiveSync without Outlook, although
obviously if you want to synch contacts, calendar, tasks, email etc
then itll need Outlook for this.
Id be tempted to get the CD working, copy the contents of the disk to
a folder on your hard disk, and rerun the install. If it craps out,
then install ActiveSync and Outlook separately.

For what its worth, the missus has an X31 running XP and in the last
week its become slow to recognise devices plugged into the USB
ports. Not sure if theres been a Windows Update thats caused
problems - probably just a coincidence, though.

Ric


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